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dpg 016 endings
2009

 

Sound as LanguageMarch 22nd, 2010

Self-Evident are back for their third album and Endings sees the band adding a little more rock to the equation. The mathy angularity of bands like Faraquet and Q And Not U is still there but toned down ever so slightly. Frankly, things seem a bit more beefed up than ever before. Bands like Hum and Kerosene 454 come to mind rather quickly upon first listens. And if it is even possible the band seems tighter and more pronounced in their playing here. Endings feels streamlined…perhaps this is a more calculated and realized version of Self- Evident than we have seen before. The album delivers on the promise of the band’s past endeavors while gaining confidence for the future. Self-Evident is a band slowly growing into something special.

The Skinny (UK)

Listening to Endings is like taking a trip back in time of about ten years, back to when bands like the Dismemberment Plan and At the Drive-In were crafting music that was vibrant, utterly confounding, and laden with irony. Self-Evident haven’t quite achieved the same great level of angular songwriting finesse that those Fugazi-informed outfits did, but on the strengths of Nonlocality’s juddering rhythms and sparklingly light interlude, or the densely packed riffery of Everything All at Once, there’s still plenty here to get your ears around. Even when at their most aggressive, as on Before the Beginning, they still maintain their contorted sense of tunefulness with an off-kilter rhythmic pulse that would likely spell the death of a lesser band, but here seems to fit in place almost perfectly. Though perhaps too discordant for some to grasp, it wields unpredictability as a potent tool. [David Bowes]

 

Reglar Wiglar

SELF-EVIDENT
Endings (DPG)
This trio from the Mini Apple have persevered for over a decade, releasing a smattering of records that employ a precise mathy set of arrangements and a sound that hovers somewhere between Don Caballero and the great Fugazmund, even recalling the Minutemen at times in its vocal stylings. What should be evident is that Self-Evident have shown no signs of let up or slow down in their long career, unless Endings means something in that regard, which one would certainly hope not—Joey T. Germ

 

Independent Clauses

Self-evident’s indie-rock is nigh on perfect

March 7, 2010

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again; there’s indie and there’s independent. Indie is a culture; independent is a status (you are signed or independent). Both have only tangential relevance to indie-rock, which is a particular type of rock. Lazy journalists use it as a catch-all, but when they say “the new big thing in indie-rock,” they really mean the “the new big thing in indie culture.” And that could be (and has been!) anything from scarves to bandannas to high-hat dance beats to optimism to cynicism and on and on.

But there really is an indie-rock sound. It’s characterized by a rock’n'roll set up, with at least some drums, a guitar and a bass. Chords are used in unusual ways, rhythms and melodies are experimented with, and songwriting structures are composed in non-traditional ways. There’s intensity, but it doesn’t make a habit of the lightning tempos of punk, the brutal intensity of metal, or the macho posturing of rock’n'roll. There are quiet sections, but it doesn’t turn into the cute moods of twee, the forlorn sounds of folk, or the giddy shine of indie-pop. It’s middle of the road, if the road was on someone else’s map that you couldn’t see. It’s emotionally tempered rock’n'roll with thought. There’s artistic ideals fused into it.

The reason I spend the time to explain my definition of indie-rock is because Self-evident plays indie-rock. If a person came up to me and asked me what indie-rock was, I’d point them to Endings as a beginning. Then I’d give them the history lesson. But on a time crunch, Self-evident’s songs would work.

That’s not to say that Endings is generic or wishy washy. On the contrary, the musical vision of the three men in Self-evident is laser-guided. They cull most of their aggression from the vocalist, who hollers as if he were in a punk band, while they pull their melodies from the incredibly tight interplay between the bass and guitar work. The two musicians weave rhythms and melodies together in a fascinating and mesmerizing way, often resulting in beautiful harmonies that take the ear off-guard. The power comes from the drummer, who pounds away as if he were in a straight-up rock band. And the parts, which don’t seem on paper to blend well, mix gloriously. This can only be the result of hours and hours of practice and songwriting.

And when “The Future” comes over the speakers, I’m immensely glad that the band took the time to be precise. The song is the epitome of the last paragraph; the tight rhythms and harmonies scattered throughout the piece demand to be carefully listened to. There are sections that thunder with a dissonant intensity, but it gives way to a peaceful, lullaby-esque melody to close out the piece. It’s simply astounding. It’s like if the Appleseed Cast wasn’t prone to distorted freak-outs, or if Unwed Sailor had lyrics, or if MeWithoutYou had gone all indie-rock instead of all post-hardcore.

“Everything All at Once” has a similarly powerful and beautiful sway. This one’s pretty section overpowers the intense section. It gives in to the ominous “Temporary, Confused,” whose use of background vocals and insistent drumming make it another standout. The glitching “At Last” threw me for a loop for a second until I understood what was going on; it’s one of the most complex and heaviest of the bunch, but it also features one of the quietest sections on the album.

This is not an album that you slap on in the background of your life. This is music to be appreciated. Endings is an album of eleven tunes with nothing left up to chance. Every turn is meticulously planned and plotted, and the result is a brilliant album that holds attention melodically, rhythmically, and mood-wise for almost forty minutes (longer, if you repeat songs – as you should). This is a stand-out release in every sense of the word, and I hope that people will release that and lavish the praise this album so rightly deserves. I mean, who else in the world is going to write a song as ambitious as “Apprentices,” and then make it sound easy? No one. Get this album now.

 

Snob's Music

Do you remember a time when the term "Emo" wasn't a four-letter word?  The term was associated with bands that made artistically aware punk rock with emotional underpinnings.  That was before the term was stretched to include a wide range of not-quite-punk, not-quite-pop bands like Jimmy Eat World and My Chemical Romance.  Bands like Jawbox and ...And You Will Know Us By The Trail Of Dead who once fit in this category, are now distanced by fans and critics and given the new label "post-rock".

Minnesota trio Self-Evident remember that time.  They are trying desperately to recreate it on their forthcoming sophomore albumEndings (out November 17th).

The album captures the band as they build on the traditions of those now post-rock bands.  Angular, minimalist arrangements show that the band holds their predecessors in high esteem.  The art rock clatter of tracks like "Before the Beginning" and "The Future" show a band that listened to more Fugazi than AFI.

Unfortunately, where Fugazi pulled in the listener, Self-Evident repels them.  Much of that stems from the overwrought vocal delivery.  While making an effort to emulate Ian MacKaye, lead singer Conrad Mach tens to go a little overboard in his enthusiasm.  More restraint, as demonstrated on "Nonlocality", would go a long way in helping the listener cut through to the message.

While their cause and effort are undeniably noble, Self-Evident fall just a little short with the execution on Endings.

Best tracks: "Nonlocality", "The Future"

 











SELF-EVIDENT

dpg 013
2007
 

CITY PAGES May 2, 2007

I Sing the Equation Quadratic: The men of Self-Evident gather in the yard for an old-fashioned time-signature roasting by Michael L. Walsh

Tom Berg is playing against type. Halfway through a basement paint job, he's slacking off. The color spreads along the wall promisingly, but then ends in jagged brushstrokes. White strips of drywall tape crisscross the ceiling like miniature runways, leading the eye to where the drywall itself gives way to exposed beams. Yet one would expect that the bass player for Self-Evident, one of the Twin Cities' longest-lived and most accomplished progressive/math-rock bands, wouldn't call ...more

Losing Today

SELF-EVIDENT SELF-EVIDENT By Richard Stokoe

The eponymous fourth album from this Minneapolis' trio offers us a further glimpse into their post-hardcore world, and they're sounding more assured and spasmodic than ever. The twelve tracks here combine progressive rock and hardcore to good effect, with the result representing ...more

Delusions of Adequacy

Self-Evident s/t
doubleplusgood records

With mathematical precision, excellent drumming, and smooth, melodic guitars, Self-Evident has made an impressively refined and sophisticated new album. This Minneapolis trio deftly weaves together punk-infused drumming with flowing riffs, and the result is striking. These very talented musicians excel ...more

Smother Magazine

Self-Evident -- Self-Evident

I find the truths about Self-Evident to be that post-emo and math rock should occasionally join forces and jam out. In the six degrees world of music, Self-Evident is related to Deep Elm Records magic rock kids Claire de Lune based on the fact that their drummer Ben Johnston is now banging the skins for this Minneapolis band. Not ever confining their sound to anything ...more

Built on a Weak Spot
WEDNESDAY, APRIL 18, 2007

Self-Evident - Self-Evident

Out sometime in May through Doubleplusgood Records is the new album from Minnesota post-emo/math rockers Self-Evident , which is simply Self-Titled . Their last album Epistemology was a bit of a challenge to listen to, as I couldn't help but gather the strange suspicion that the band was trying with all their might to squeeze in as many odd time signatures and overall crazy riffing as they could. To be honest, it sounded ...more

The Onion (Madison)

Self-evident's yelping hardcore punk mixed with crafty math-rock melodies may sound a little immature, but the Minneapolis trio has room to grow.   Many of the songs on the band's new self-titlted album patiently flesh out the kind of quiet passages that ...more

The Onion (Chicago)
Nov 1-7, 2007

Though some dismiss the math-rock label as a joke, it's an apt description of the galloping, angular punk that Self-Evident has served up for a decade.   The Minneapolis trio took on new drummer Ben Johnston last year, and the addition ...more

Sound as Language

Self-Evident are a powerful indie rock trio based out of Minneapolis, MN. If you are a fan of the mathy DC sound that spawned bands like Fugazi and Faraquet then Self-Evident is a must hear. This is the band's second full-length record and marks a new line-up as well as a more mature and stream-lined sound. The band deftly goes back and forth between twinkly guitars to mathy rock. Whatever sound the band is mining, they do it with a remarkable poise. Too often with music of this nature melodies seem to get lost in the instrumental shuffle. However, there is a melodic undercurrent that runs ...more

INDEPENDENT CLAUSES

Self-Evident Self-Evident
doubleplusgood records
Genre: Ambience/Indie
Best Element: Long instrumental riffs.

Sometimes a band will miss the mark on what they are trying to do. While their efforts are well intentioned, and the work ethic can't be questioned, there is just something missing. That's what happened on Self-Evident's self titled release. Just one listen to any song on the album illustrates how hard these guys are working on their instrumental parts. Every track contains instrumentals that ...more

THE NEW SCHEME #17

Self-Evident
Self-Titled

After nearly a decade as a band, Self-Evident are
releasing just their second full length. Their debut, 2005's
Epistemology was angular and technical, but never too
daunting. But since that record, Self-Evident replaced their
drummer. Not surprisingly, there is a smoother feel to ...more

Advance-Titan

Examining the evidence: Minneapolis' rock kings
by Kevin Kosterman of the Advance Titan

Formed in 1997, Minneapolis-based Self-Evident has been one of the hardest-working bands in the Midwest indie scene, playing more than 450 shows in 15 states and sharing the stage with Don Caballero, Life and Times, Oxes, Big City Rock and Local H to name a few. Nearly a decade later, the recently reshuffled three-piece is still bringing its impossible-to-categorize blend of indie-jazz-math-noise rock -- lovingly referred to ...more

 

 

Pulse of the Twin Cities
Self-Evident: Skilled rock for non-prog people

By dospatos - Date: 2003-09-24 13:00:56

by P.J. Morel

What’s wrong with complex music? Rock snobs roll their eyes with disdain at the mention of any band that happens to dig something other than the usual verse-chorus-verse pop arrangement. “It’s not rock,” they say. “Rock is folk music. It’s not a symphony. These guys should learn to play violins.” Granted, most of the bands they’re...more

 

“DIRECT EP”
(BLUE WORK RECORDS 2001)

DEMORAMA.COM

Ambient at times and chaotic at others, Self-Evident takes a real stab at making different and emotional alternative music. These fine musicians are serious about their craft and just as serious about the feeling they put into it. Those feelings are hard to describe: the vocalists alternate between screaming...more

 

“WHAT WE SOUND LIKE”
(DOOM NIBBLER 2000)
My guess is that the boys in Self-evident are pretty serious fellers. Their lyrics tend to be short and to the point, and often seem to be the type of internal micro-conversations we all have when we're too confused to talk to anyone else...more